Interesting Article: pAImAI by Crablouse
I am interested in the early parts of a sarge before you open. This article is excellent in describing some of the components of that interaction. It is about Pre-Approach Invitation, Male Approach Invitation coined by Formhandle.
Excellent article, must read!
- What I'm getting at here, is basically the concept that women are READY to be fucked AT ALL TIMES. They are in a position of approving of it whenever, wherever. Our culture tends to tell us otherwise -- that females need more "warming up" and that they operate more slowly, more like a toaster than a light-switch. I'm trying to say, that they might indeed be like a toaster, but it's a toaster that's ALREADY WARM if you encounter them in appropriate circumstances.
Excellent article, must read!
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At 9:02 AM,
Mimesis said…
Just to make sure I will have a copy of the article even if the site is closed...
Paimai examples for better understanding of the needed behavior
These are posts that I took (copied) from asf, from different excellent asf-posters. Some have been changed by me, some notes are added Thanks!
You're in a bookstore and an HB walks up and stands near you and at that moment starts making a fuss to dig through her huge sack called a "purse" to dig out a scarf and keeps making a lot of commotion to put the scarf on, fix her hair, whatever. That's an AI. The beauty of an AI is that it *creates* your opener FOR you - you no longer have to worry about WHAT to say to open with a chick. In that situation, all you've got to say is: "Interesting scarf" or "That's a huge bag" or "Hi". You are 10x more likely to get a positive response from an AI situation than a cold approach using either a canned opener or coming up with something interesting while initiating conversation. It could be ANY number of things to get your attention that in most circumstances are out of the norm of the normal pace of life. She decides to tie her sneakers in front of you. She gives you EC and smiles. She asks people around her stupid questions. She says something really dorky out loud to her friend, easily overheard by you. She seems to stall in the areas you're standing. She starts tapping her fingers on a surface near you. She drops something near you, pretends to be interested in something near you, ... YOU GET THE POINT!! Two examples: 1. I am in a bookstore, browsing with no intent to buy. I've found an interesting photography book and have strategically seated myself in a comfortable leather chair in the middle of this section. Consciously sending out the "vibe" through my posture and occasionally looking up from my reading. After about 10 minutes I notice HB8CellPhone (why do people talk on these things in bookstores and libraries? it is rude) about 40 feet away and directly in my line of sight at the 12 o'clock position. We make EC and I give her "the look" mentioned above and return to looking at photographs. Less than two minutes later she has navigated the store and returns to a position about 10 feet from me and makes a call on her cell phone that I cannot help overhearing. She looks at me as she is telling the person on the other line about how difficult it is to shop for her father. Well hell, now I've got an AI and an opening...I approach, fluff, etc. Opt for a number close as she didn't excite me. 2. Yesterday I am having lunch with two clients at an upscale restaurant. It is an intense business meeting/luncheon as we are discussing a possible sales transaction so we are mostly oblivious to our surroundings. At one point I notice the HB9Hostess seating another group nearby. As I am busted looking at her very nice legs and ass I give her a "I know I'm bad but I can't help it" look and then return to the sales meeting. In this case I really am too busy to approach. However, she starts wandering aimlessly in my area directly in line between our table and the mens restroom, straightening tablecloths that are perfectly fine...pretending to survey the dining room, etc. Again, a clear AI because she is away from her post (front door greeting) and lingering, looking directly at me at least twice and hanging out near the men's restroom. She was practically screaming "Come chat me up" but I had a lot of business on the line. Sometimes sarging has to take a back seat but I'm certain I could have, at the very least, number closed.
For example, in a bookstore I was blatantly checking out a hot/classy-dressed Chinese chick by herself while she was looking at books in the law section. I was in a bookstore, yet not buying books or even browsing. I was just leaning up against a small table at the end of the aisle BLATANTLY checking her out for 2-3 minutes while she browsed books before I approached. I felt like a panther ready to pounce. She didn't shy away or move to a different aisle, so I walked up to her and STILL waited a brief second for her to reciprocate EC and I said, "Hi, You look intent on finding a certain book." Her: (smiling) "blah blah". My response (roughly) was, "You know, I couldn't help noticing how intently you've been looking for something in particular. I also was noticing that you have a very attractive figure (looking at her from top to bottom)... actually, I couldn't take my eyes off you." She took the complement well. I chatted with her for 2-3 minutes (fluff), then took her to the coffee area in the bookstore, initiated kino while at a small table (Maniac style), then extracted her from the bookstore to grab Sushi and progress towards a same-day close. For the record, I didn't actually close her the same day, but the newbs should pay attention to the progression and how this played out in the context of my having total control from the very beginning by gauging interest non-verbally and setting up a pre-condition of acceptance and a platform for her to initiate her own AI (or IOIs, whatever). I call this pre-conditioning pAImAI (pre-AI male AI)... I'll be getting more into it while I write that e-book I keep talking about.
On some occasions a chick will not give EC back but she can sense that you are looking at her.
Right - one of my wings calls this "telegraphing [intent]." Sometimes it's bad to telegraph intent - hovering, thinking nervously before approaching, etc. But, if you telegraph in a CONFIDENT way, and she doesn't find a way to slip away from you somehow before the approach, it's like she's giving an IOI right there, effectively saying "approach me." it established a base of total control for you because she's already accepted your presence, is receptive to being approached, and not likely to be "surprised" when an opening is initiated.
So for example if you're on the same side of the store and you see her looking at something on the shelf, you get a bit closer (but maintain a comfortable distance) then look toward her direction for a bit longer then usual and then look away.
Well, I wouldn't even care to look away. I would just be careful not to make myself appear like I'm staring. More like "gazing" in a selective way. As if I am trying to make a decision of whether she deserves to be approached by me.
On most occasion when you look away she'll then take a peek at you, if she lingers around that area then it's a good cue for you to approach.
If you KNOW she realizes she's being checked out yet stays put, that's all you need to know to presume high interest on her end.
This checking thing can be very powerful. I've noticed that on most occasions if a chick realises you're checking her out, she gets curious and begins to act strange, touch her hair, act nervous etc.
You are essentially a male using a female tactic. paying attention for AIs and IOIs, capitalizing, and make her know you're checking her out.
This is also the very frame which allows compliments to work VERY well versus trying to compliment a chick out of the blue.
but the important thing is if she lingers around (doesn't eject AR), then you must approach.
On some occasions after doing the checking thing without EC, I would walk away from that part of the store and notice that the chick would follow me to the next shelf.
then walk to another part of the store, just to experiment... and guess what, a few seconds later she wanders into that area and stands right next to me pretending to be looking at something the shelf.
Non-verbal communication at play here!
Right - as I described above, it's a fine line between "staring/stalking" and "gazing selectively before approaching". You MUST approach when the scenario indicates that she has ANY interest whatsoever. Because if you wait too long, she may get impatient and walk away, or think that your gaze is too aggressive. Approaching the chick who got into that mindset will cause her to be fearful rather than interested. Which is why you must capitalize quickly. Even if she doesn't *appear* to show interest. Better to find out than not. But also better to understand the proper way to structure this type of approach - it takes some practice.
saw chicks transparently making attempts to put themselves in position of being PU'd - but only after certain actions taken by me. It's somewhat similar to Gunwitch's sexual state, but on a less aggressive and more observational level, allowing for better calibration of chicks in the environment so as to maximize PU efficiency.
On the most basic level, if you understand AI, then just reverse roles pre-approach with a focus on observation. Also, in doing the reverse AI, put yourself in a mindset similar to Gunwitch, but not as aggressive. When first trying to get accustomed to pAImAI, some guys will get impatient at what seemingly comes across as "nothing happening". But, really, chicks are just a lot more sensitive to the subtleties of this type of approach and you have to increase your own sensitivity (observationally, not wimpy kind) in order to capitalize on it.
pre-AI male AI, a semi-passive action or series of actions meant to induce a chick to initiate an AI. A means to "pre-condition" a chick to initiate some form of non-verbal IOI before actually approaching her or doing an opener, usually the best IOI response to the structure being an AI. Essentially, it's a conscious male tactic (applied as if it was unconscious) that reverses the frame of a female unconscious "PU" tactic.
1.1. self- selecting criterion
(hot-chicks, and chicks-who-think-they're-hot- chicks) suggest to me that the entrance into the AI game is A LOT about confidence for women ... just as it is for men. So, again, it's a self- selecting criterion, in which those who "got it" end up meeting one another, while those who don't "got it" don't know what the fuck just happened or why everyone else seems to be fucking each other so gleefully and leaving them out. That conclusion, to me, supports the notion that the "naturals" out there can't explain what they're doing; that the AFCs out there (male and female, conceptually) don't understand what the naturals are doing, and CAN'T, until they get a frame-break; and that in general the whole mating game is VERY EASY if only you DON'T trip yourself up.
1.2. Why don't you just fuck her?"
That kind of reminds me of my ex-pals the business-knob AFCs who attracted suburbanite middle-class money-digging women by cupid-value alone (high-paying jobs, expensive wardrobes) who suggested to me, a poor grad student, that the way to get with this certain chick I was interested in at the time was, "Why don't you just fuck her?" That wasn't very helpful advice, and the whole "structure an opportunity" reminds me of it.
1.3. Discovery channel
"The blue-breasted male cockateal moves slowly into the female's realm. AS his scent is picked up, the female displays her yellow-colored feather adornment. The male picks up on her interests and initiates the distinct coo sounds of an interested male. The female is pleased that her choice (haha) is responding to her mating cues, and responds in similar coo fashion..."
This practice seems to make the AI's more clear from the target. They seem eager to make it very easy to approach them if you show them there is no fear of rejection, (violence, slutt-branding)
Right, the point of pAImAI isn't to vibe "I want you definitely", it's to basically make
1 your presence known to your target
2 so that you then position yourself to optimally observe her AIs. 2a At the same time, you can vibe that you're aware of her presence, but the actual actions you take must be unknown to her - she has to be guessing as to what you'll do. That's a primary psychological factor in inducing AIs from chicks - "There's something about him. Does he notice me?"
3 However, guys must understand that once a chick has thrown out one or more AIs in a short period of time (couple minutes), it's akin to an "approach" for her and a guy not responding to that is like a rejection to her. DO you realize how many chicks any one of us might have rejected in our lifetimes without ever knowing it?
Lonewolves have no problems sending AIs or making you "invisible" (if they dont like you at all).
1.4. high class clothing
Responding to chicks hierarchy?!. :-/ Second trials: Same procedure visiting similar places BUT with a 5.000 Euros Armani suit on, dressed as im the fucking shit!. YEX!. :-] "Invisible" man factor just didnt happened (maybe personal subconscious issue and different mind state due suit etc). Far less AIs in total, only from quality HBs, but very very very subtle and scarce. Maybe mental masturbation on my side?. Anyway, these HBs probably would have ignored me in my previous trial. Under quality chicks either alone or in groups didnt send AIs except some of them obviously staring at me when i "wasn't noticing it". Those who were really under qualified chicks (probably had been also under qualified in previous trial) reacted in the same way than before, but more "calmly".
1.5. high status male
Chicks react to a kind "male ranking" own perception. This perception is basically influenced by an "instinct layer" telling them when a male deserves AIs due his "alphaness" (openly understood), but with some important influence from social conditioning etc. When a chick is herself high ranked (looks + social status), her perception on males are more influenced by social conditioning and other factors than in regular chicks, therefore your "alphaness" itself won't "reach" them unless there are some other factors in the formula braking her top "educational layers" prejudgments allowing you to reach their "instinctive layer". In fact, for celebrities, when they are "out there" in the world, out of their "normal" circle, its like they are "blind" to external stimulus unless really out of ordinary, specially regarding social interactions
1.6. Constantly assesing her
key to the whole pAImAI-to-AI game: being IN THE MIDST of assessing her. Never DECIDING FINALLY that you want to fuck her, but always BEING RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF THAT POSSIBILITY. "Is she good enough for me? Hmm ... ."
This is similar to something that happened to me a couple months ago - two chicks dancing near the edge of the dance floor, I stood just a few feet off the dance floor and observed. The chick I was most interested in glanced at me only once as I moved into the area, but she danced past me several times. Several guys tried to dance with her, but she blew them off. Finally, after about 15 minutes, she comes off the floor (her friend dances out into the crowd) and stands with her back to me, about three feet in front of me. I walk up, place one hand on her back and tell her, "If you're going to stop entertaining me, I'll have to go home." Normally if you approach a chick from behind, she'll be at least a bit surprised, but this one acted as if she was expecting it, probably because she HAD been expecting it.
this stuff isn't centered around looks so much as it centers around presence, vibe, internal attitude and external congruency of that attitude, and ability to follow through. It's essentially the breakdown of applying "cues" to a chick in a non-verbal "Cialdini-esque" way, yet devoid of the pressure of having the "best body", good looks, worrying about height, riches, etc. - it's not a competition-based way of thinking, but rather a means to assume you are already at the top of the food chain in your environment.
I started to accidentally discover pAImAI, that actions from myself to try to get EC or a chick to notice me before I moved in for the approach, sometimes it did induce AI.
We hit a high-end bar/club one night and there were these 2 very hot chicks dancing with each other in provocative ways. It was clear they were peacocking while also probably getting in their exercise for the week (lol). Anyway, I decided my tactic would be to observe the hell out of them, clearly enjoying it, while sitting on a stool plopped practically in front of them (something I recalled reading once used as a tactic by some guy on uASF). TPUA through I was crazy for doing it, but I played along. I was observing them in the way, obviously enjoying myself without any sort of shame, just enjoying their display, while guido after guido would get bounced off by them when those guys tried approaching. All those guys were tall, built, good-looking, and dressed sharply. But they ALL got bounced off by them. None of those guys got ANYWHERE... although some would try "dirty dancing" with them and were able to stay in for maybe a minute before getting booted. They literally bounced away over 20 guys in a 2-hour period. Meanwhile, I just confidently gazed at their display in amusement with the feeling of knowing that *I* would close them that night, even though all these other guys were bounced off - because those guys were clueless while I understood what was really going on. I never got AI from them once, other that they continued dancing in that area even though I maintained my observation presence. And, in the middle of all that, I even got opened on by a chick sitting near me, so I just used her as social proof - while using the 2 chicks as social proof, as if the 2 chicks were with me. So, the chicks finally decided to leave the club, a bit before it closed, so I called TPUA to action in order for us to follow them outside the club and open on them. Did that, walked a bit behind them as they got to a street corner, then I opened with "Hey... I could tell you enjoyed dancing in that club, and I was enjoying watching you. I'm Jay." Started walking with them (in pace... a great mirroring tactic), TPUA took one, I took the other, until we all ended up on a street corner across the street from the garage we were parked at. We worked up a solid 2-main PU and were getting great vibes from the chicks, although they didn't look as good in the light as they did in the club while dancing (7.5-8 in the light, 9+ in the club). We almost got them to go back with us, but I think we were either too aggressive of I f'd up TPUA's lead. In any case, we got 10x further than any of those 20 guys who, on appearance alone, were higher "value" than us. Since that night, I'd realized the power of the "selective" frame, and the patience frame which completely breaks the 3s rule to shreds, yet works will in non-standard PUs.
Late in 2002, was in the mall with TokyoPUA one day and decided to approach a 2-set of what I thought were Russian chicks. I did TokyoPUA "follow mode" on them until there was an opp to initiate while they were in a stationary location, a coffee place. I vibed my presence and saw some subtle EC in response, and that they stayed in the cafe in a position to allow for an approach, and so I opened on them, they turned out to be Polish au pairs. The chick that was my target was a solid 9.5, I # closed her (TPUA wasn't interested in the other one so an extraction wasn't in the cards), and we moved on after finding out where they would be that night. Essentially, TPUA pulled what we've since categorized as a pAImAI - the Lord Byron "underlook" as described by Greene in Art of Seduction.
I decided to repeat TPUA's underlook while watching a couple of hot chicks dance in front of us, yet not do what all the other guys in the vicinity were doing - trying to get "in" by goofily dancing near them, or even trying to dirty dance (freak) with them without first getting a good vibe. Within a couple minutes, one of the chicks worked her way to me and started giving me signals to move in and dance with her. I made her work for it by not accepting it right away - not shyly, but in that "I'm selective" confident sort of way. So then she becomes more aggressive and pulls me out by grabbing my hands. I don't say a word to her for a couple minutes, and when I did I just said "Happy New Year... where's my kiss?" She starts kissing me on the lips. The rest of the night, I'd randomly make out with her, even after not saying much to her and only vibing the "quality male" thing that finalD and I are dissecting in these pAImAI-AI discussions.
I'd pick the part of the bar where chicks usually have space to do their peacock dancing and also provides me a spot to hang back but NOT be a wallflower. A spit where I can be highly visible, create a contrast from the other guys, and make it clear I'm watching a specific chick or 2 with that "I'm trying to decide is she deserves for me to fuck her. The portrayal of that must include lust, but not that my lust has taken me over.
1.7. Gravitation
What I found was, chick gravitated. While shoving off other guys from one end of the dance "region" to the other (where I was), they'd work their way in.
The contrast made it EASY for me to open, whenever a chick was in my vicinity, and also got chicks to gravitate to my vicinity in the first place. I began to solidly form an opinion that the first-stage stuff was working
these chicks were coming by and opening, although I had somewhat of a clue.
So, I started transitioning this "vibe"/pAImAI to street PU and in translated even better, because the AI would be similar (yet not as aggressive)
1.8. Looks
It seems, it's best to go middle-ground or slightly higher than in your presentation in order to cast a net on the widest number of chicks. Going VERY high doesn't seem to affect the SHBs any differently and
1.9. her looks and ai
But I have noticed something mentioned already: The better looking the chick, the more likely she'll initiate an AI in response to pAImAI. However, chicks above 9, and gradually more towards 9.9, will have more subtle forms of AI... because it takes a higher level of man to notice and take action. This ALSO relates closely with internal perceptions of value. Even a SHB might sometimes feel she is too "low" for a guy (slight LSE).
1.10. be a sensitive guy
Anyway, as I read more of this stuff, I am surprised and amazed at how WELL it conforms to a LARGE number of statements (most of which I previously dismissed as total chick-logic bullshit) made by women about THEIR part in the game of seduction. "We already know who we want to fuck" and "be a sensitive guy" and "he and I have to have a spark" and all that other shit suddenly become EXPLICABLE STATEMENTS,
In a lot of ways it explains the whole social-proof thing as well, as chicks constantly battle among one another to one-up each other.
Those stories from Jay also reminds be of some occasions (long time ago BTW) in the club scene when after "gravitating" toward me and showing AIs (shit i know it now!),
1.11. React! Open! on AI
sometimes chicks reacted to my lack of interest "playing" with other guys right there "in front of me". As if ultimating testing my "alphaness" and trying to provoke a reaction in me. I say this because i believe although not letting them "win" on you too early, there is a point where if they go "too far", it would be close to impossible to have a good chance for approaching successfully. Even they might lose interest in you due you failing in "taking action" while the window of opportunity is still open. SO clear there is a need of calibrating the best moment for approaching after their AIs, BUT (here is an important detail IMHO) the approach shouldn't mean/show you have decided she is the chosen one, since that "in the midst of assessing" state should be kept on, for congruency sakes for instance!,
apart of likely being also a way of maintaining and increasing "sexual tension" (as C/F does in a different manner).
process (visble state change, centered nervousness)
Desirable female in "readiness" state gets into male range. - Male "visible state change" reaction occurs
Male focus then full "resources" on female (for detecting even the most subtle AI?). -
Female detects "state change" in male (first selective filter) and if there is a "match", reacts with AIs.
More subtle AIs as more desirable the chick is thus more hard to detect therefore another selective filter (only males with enough power to control own "state change" as to not running away and pay attention to AIs will finally detect them and approach).
im going to keep that "state change"
It's like, the pAImAI thing is a totally self-selecting, self-fulfilling prophecy. It prefers more attractive women (the hotties isolate themselves from their UG cockblock friends), it approaches women when women WANT an approach (by creating and / or responding to their approach-invitation), it helps to close when the close is wanted and will be most likely reciprocated, as well. T
For instance if i'm talking to a bartender and a chick or group or chicks sits in range, or get close to me in a bar, i blatanly stop talking to the bartender, glare (establish intense EC) and resume conversation with bartender, and after bartender goes away i resume EC for a second and approach straight after AI. Normally i receive AIs while EC for the first time. I also tend to force myself to approach when i don't see any AI at all at any moment.
Another instance: yesterday i was in a ATM retrieving some cash and i saw a HB walking down the street from my left. I turned my head toward her slowly and established brief EC. She looked down and away and kept walking, although slower after passing behind me. AI!. As i took my money i went straight to her and approached from behind. She showed she was for sure expecting it!.
Sometimes when i get in front of a HB by chance in a bookstore or just browsing CDs, i just smile like thinking "Mmmmm..... only if this were a proper situation for approaching you.....". Usually the chick responds with an smile (AI) or arranging her hair (another AI), and guess what........ (Hey!, It's always a proper situation for engaging!). ;-)
So you must get attention by whatever means you decide to use
1. CRablouse paimai notes
1.12. Observing
1) Look good, good optics
2) Determine target
3) Follow her somehow
4) a) Hi, pause, she looks at you (qe) "yes?"
b) I have been noticing you for a while (before talking to you) and I think I like you…
1.13. Noticing (physical)
1) Optic, good looks: to get noticed RANDOMLY, to get quick evaluation then AI GoSignal (actually both sexes)
2) Paimai to get noticed non randomly, still need ai
3) Do Ais on her paimai or straight (3s, raise hand, augenzwinkern, Nicken)
All of this is non sexual, non pu, non hit on
If she realizes she might get approached, she will qe and prepare her reaction, so then approach in a non slutty manner
4) Opener doesn't matter, as mutual ai
Hi, U seem to be a nice person calibrate C
Are you from around here, for how long?
I am form, since that long
I came here (to this place) to (shop, piss, eat)
How do you like this place, town, activity she's doing?
I like / don't like place, town, activity
What do you work / What are your hobbies / What you wanna be (carrier)
Did you see on TV (News, series)
Paimai, notice her quick evaluation, if you look directly she looks down so dont get her caught looking before evaluation sth auffälliges attention getting
I think I like you, I mean as a person C
Minimum people mass to stay incognito
on ai: Vous avez qqc qui vous distingue des autres femmes (lolo girl), mais je sais pas encore quoi...
Niveaux Go Signal:Good appearance (looks, dominant male) to AI Good looks is a paimai invitation
Stranger
neutral talk to no psycho test
personalization as soi (personal talk)
different from others to show more interest, would like to find out, learn more
Continue right now, after work, or sandwich, soda, ice date
sexual state projection while neutral talk then more kino and proximity
isolation induction "Let's go there" "Let's have a walk"
stronger sexual state, slight kino and closeness
Touch chin and lip kiss, slight kino
explication: Dude, girls never approach. Instead, they make themselves available for you to approach. They give hints for you to approach. If you don't, they figure you weren't man enough, so no loss. better: negotiation system
IOW, making it obvious you are screening her but without an "in a need" feeling.
1.14. "Im noticing you, i know you are noticing me, so?..."
1.15. Reactions on paimai
react with shy but obvious AIs (most common brushing their hair),
or standing there very quiet (yet frozen?!),
or getting the hell out of there!.
No direct EC or maybe for a fraction of a second. :-
clear AIs or
clear signs of "dont get close to me".
1.16. Paimai example
I was in a cashier line when she appears walking slowly towards the stairs. Im stuck in the line, impossible to get out of there without major disturbing other people in the queue. I just laterally step and blatantly screen her from top to bottom. She notices it with her peripheral vision. Stops. Glances in my general direction. Gesture with a "where might be...?" face. Approach to where i am. Pushes some guys in my queue until she reaches where i am!. Then says: "Is this the queue for presents wrapping?" when it is obviously NOT! (that establishment has attendants dedicated to wrapping what you buy in Xmas time). I said: "Nope. This is cashier line. Go downstair". She goes: "Thx (big smile)". Goes to the stairs once again and stops besides a security guy and ask him something (the same shit as he points downstairs!) but with her body almost facing in my direction!. I think: "Ok, ill get you at the wrapping queue". I couldnt believe my luck, although my heart was beating like crazy i have to admit!. Then my cashier goes out of change, out of paper for the printer, and breaks a nail!. FUCKING SHIT!. Couldnt engage that one!. She wasnt there when i finally got to the exit floor!. :-(
After pAImAI she showed a very "subtle" AI: stopped in front of a jacket, with an elegant manoeuvre, one hand to her hip, the other touching her face while slightly tilting her head. All of this very naturally. As if she really fancy the jacket. Then she "kinoed" the jacket very softly, and looked for the tag. I approached: "Nice jacket (smile). Doesnt fit with your stile though". She goes: "Yeah. Its for a present. My daughter...". I got surprised, with the "guard down": "What?!... How old are you?!...". She: "Hahahaha". Smiles, tilt her head like saying "bad move man!, you fucked up your approach!", and moved. :-( I think better would have been to say, "I see, how old is your daughter
1.17. AR example
HBTITS: Another 8. Maybe 8.5 without that much make-up!. She is listening a CD in those players some places have for you checking the product. I come by her side and put on the other pair of headphones. I clearly screen her. No EC. She only begins to move her right feet following the rhythm. Only difference from before i screen her. AI?. When she stops listening i take out the headphones and said: "Nice CD. Ive gotten to buy a copy next week. There are good savings then...". She goes: "Good idea" while checking her watch. Then leaves, but as she is leaving turns her head and looks at me briefly. I can almost see her smile (mental masturbation) while she turns again her head to her front. Walks faster and leaves. :-/
1.18. AI spotting
is something I have always been pretty good at. I have a good intuition for distinguishing an AI WHEN I see it.
1.19. Paimai example
The day after I read Jay's stuff I was taking the bus home reading my college class schedule for winter term when a the bus stopped and I looked up and stared at what was going on out the window for a moment. When passengers started to get on I looked over and made EC (incidental) with a 6 at the same time I moved my bag off the seat in case someone wanted to sit there, she did. Since I was not attracted to her I had no thoughts about sarging at all in this situation at this point.
Once she sat down I could see her pimping her hair up immediately (AI) in my peripheral vision. Now I actually DID consciously think of that as an AI but I still didn't talk to her because I was not interested in her as a target and I wasn't in one of my talk-to-whoever moods at the time. As the bus started moving I resumed looking at my course catalog and could see her STARING at it like it could POSSIBLY be of any interest to her. I had thought at that point to start talking to her just to affirm my intuitions but my cell rang and the call was important. She got off the bus while I was on the phone looking at me as she got up to get off.
I thought about this a little more afterwards. If I wanted to sarge her then the time to talk to her would have been right away when she sat down. Often times I notice that if you miss (or in this case choose not to respond) to what you later realize was probably AI you don't often get a follow-up AI, perhaps because the girl thinks you are uninterested or dense, or she wants to avoid the impression that she is "trying to hard" to be noticed by you. Here I did get a follow-up AI. I started to think about it more and remembered the pAImAI concept I recently read about.
The interpretation I arrived at was that the natural maneuver of me looking up at her briefly and taking my bag off of the empty seat SHE perceived as pAImAI. Even though THAT was unconscious on my part the AI spotting that went on afterwards was totally conscious. From now on, I plan to consciously harness pAImAI particularly when sarging streets, campus and public transportation.
One or two of the younger waitresses actually double-checked my table to "help out" my real waitress -- something a hottie would never do unless she "intended" (either consciously or subconsciously) it as an approach invitation and / or indicator of interest or whatever.
1.20. Two examples:
1. I am in a bookstore, browsing with no intent to buy. I've found an interesting photography book and have strategically seated myself in a comfortable leather chair in the middle of this section. Consciously sending out the "vibe" through my posture and occasionally looking up from my reading. After about 10 minutes I notice HB8CellPhone (why do people talk on these things in bookstores and libraries? it is rude) about 40 feet away and directly in my line of sight at the 12 o'clock position. We make EC and I give her "the look" mentioned above and return to looking at photographs. Less than two minutes later she has navigated the store and returns to a position about 10 feet from me and makes a call on her cell phone that I cannot help overhearing. She looks at me as she is telling the person on the other line about how difficult it is to shop for her father. Well hell, now I've got an AI and an opening...I approach, fluff, etc. Opt for a number close as she didn't excite me.
2. Yesterday I am having lunch with two clients at an upscale restaurant. It is an intense business meeting/luncheon as we are discussing a possible sales transaction so we are mostly oblivious to our surroundings. At one point I notice the HB9Hostess seating another group nearby. As I am busted looking at her very nice legs and ass I give her a "I know I'm bad but I can't help it" look and then return to the sales meeting. In this case I really am too busy to approach. However, she starts wandering aimlessly in my area directly in line between our table and the mens restroom, straightening tablecloths that are perfectly fine...pretending to survey the dining room, etc. Again, a clear AI because she is away from her post (front door greeting) and lingering, looking directly at me at least twice and hanging out near the men's restroom. She was practically screaming "Come chat me up" but I had a lot of business on the line. Sometimes sarging has to take a back seat but I'm certain I could have, at the very least, number closed.
They seem eager to make it very easy to approach
1.21. Subtle ai
The stumbling blocks you're having with the ambiguity of judging AIs and knowing if you're getting the looks etc. right.
1.22. Of course she cooses us
The "insert between 1 and 2" is a decent plan (although it casts the whole shebang as though SHE is making decisions, and WE are hoping she chooses us;
Thats my point. Although you are right and i strongly believe women MAKE decisions. Crucial decisions. They are the ones pre-selecting the males, sending AIs, and finally selecting them for the fuck after males display their "colors".
1.23. Sexual treshold
Their "threshold" whereupon sexual energy is being transferred, and where communication is taking place, is a LOT lower than us males' (although they may be in denial of that fact).
What I'm getting at here, is basically the concept that women are READY to be fucked AT ALL TIMES. They are in a position of approving of it whenever, wherever. Our culture tends to tell us otherwise -- that females need more "warming up" and that they operate more slowly, more like a toaster than a light-switch. I'm trying to say, that they might indeed be like a toaster, but it's a toaster that's ALREADY WARM if you encounter them in appropriate circumstances.
Hence the fact that they often TRY to communicate interest and fail -- they offer something TEENY TINY, like putting on makeup within a forty-foot radius of a male, and believe that this counts as "sending a clear signal." To them, anything minuscule is an overt signal, precisely BECAUSE their level of awareness of sexual potential is so much higher than ours. We have a much more definite "off" state than they do, and therefore (although our arousal is more direct and quick) something OVERT must happen to flip our switch back to "on." They, on the other hand, live their ENTIRE LIVES in the middle zone, where a LITTLE ministration can send them over the brink. Hence, they are painfully aware of their own fallibility, the fact that they are always in danger of succumbing to their desires. Add to this the fact that they tend to validate their lives NOT on the basis of accomplished works, but on the basis of emotional honesty, and you realize what a powder keg a woman thinks her own mind and emotional stability are.
1.24. Generic opener on ai:
"Hi. I noticed you over here and I wanted to come and see what you were like." I got AI the other day and used the above line. She's coming over for drinks on thursday.
1.25. Example
I was at Chapters Bookstore today and i had a list of books I wanted to buy written down on a piece of paper. I walk up to one of the computer terminals but their is someone on it so I'm standing there looking around, waiting to use it. After a few minutes, I realize that there is this cute salesgirl, HBChapters8, who is hovering around the area. I look at her and smile: "Hey. I'm just waiting to use the computer :)" ...":) "There's another one right over there. You can use that one!" ..."Thanks :)" I walk over to the other computer and its frozen....so I call over the old cougar who is nearby and tell her the computer is busted. I see HBChapters coming over and she says: "Don't worry, I'll fix it!" and she re-starts the computer and waits until it boots up and then asks me what book I'm looking for. I tell her: "Quite a few actually, here is the list" The books are stuff that David DeAngelo recommends and one of them is "Secrets of Sensual Love Making" ...she starts slowly typing that one in and I smile: "Oh no, no, you don't have to look up that one...." and i playfully kino her shoulder. She is smiling. After looking up ALL the books she says: "Ok, i'll help you find them" and we walk around the store finding these books. When she picks up: "The Rules" I laugh and say: "How to find your dream guy? This must be the wrong book" and she's laughing asking me where I got this book list from! She tells me that "The Rules" is written by a 35yr old woman and is wondering why I would want to read it. I bullshit and tell her its for a psychology class and its recommended reading. After finding all the books she stays and talks to me about her boring psych class and I start asking her about the class. Keep in mind, I haven't done ANYTHING except for smile, good EC, good tonality, and some KINO. Basic stuff. All of a sudden she realizes that her job is done so she's like "ok!" and leaves. I honestly don't care because while I rated her an HB8 at first sight, up close, she had these wierd bumps near her mouth and it was kinda gross. I bumped her down to an HB6 who I MIGHT fuck after a few beers. So I'm standing there, flipping through about five different books to decide on which one I want to buy. There is another HB6 hovering around near me so I jokingly say: "Did you want to look at these books?" (the books in my hand) and she smiles and says: "hahah, no, no....i'm just looking at these ones..." and continues to hover in my area!? Out of my peripheral vision I notice that HBChapters has walked by me about 3-4 times and is WATCHING me flip through these the books. I finally decide on buying "Half Empty Half Full" by Susan Vaughn because it was on sale for SIX BUCKS. I walk to the cashier and there are TWO cashiers already there and only one guy in line. I almost fall over LAUGHING when HBChapters runs up to an empty till and calls to me: "I can help you over here!!!" We exchange some fluff and she says: "Enjoy the book :)" and I say: "Thank you, i will" and leave. ____ I didn't close HBChapters because of the gross thing on her face but the amount of AI I got in this interaction was INSANE!!!!!!!!! Guys, I'm finally beginning to fully comprehend how chicks leave themselves OPEN to be PUed but most guys don't jump on the opportunities. Guys, AI is SO POWERFUL! If you get a SOLID AI you don't need to do ANYTHING SPECIAL during the PU. Its a JOKE!
1.26. Mystery said her looking at you is all the AI you need.
1.27. ai how they do
Whether they stare at your crotch, stand right next to you humming, punch you in the stomach or actually come up and say "I like your shirt" is only a difference of degree. Either way they are taking an active role and trying to get your attention. I'm sure the last time a chick walked all the way across the room to order at the bar right next to you she considered it an approach just like some guys consider leaving empty glasses on a group of girls table and approach.
Look for something a little different - in a bookstore, this girl comes up near you and grabs a book. Watch her for a moment, slyly.. is she actually reading or browsing, or just flipping pages until you say hi?
Not that I expect you to do what I would do, but in these situations I usually get a good reaction just by staring right back at something on their body (go figure where exactly... ;-) ), BUT with a clear intent not to hide it (ie. getting caught) and at the same time smiling big time...
You have to first differentiate between normal/expected behavior and something that "stands out". Then you have to differentiate between such behaviour as being for all guys in the vicinity (peacocking) or as something directed JUST to you (AI).
1.28. Example
I went to pick up some dry cleaning today. There's a very cute chick there who seems too young for me (very possibly under 18), so I've yet to bother initiating anything on her. She's witnessed me in the past # close another hot chick (customer) in 30 seconds, and my tonality with her has always been good (because I want to maintain some kind of additional masculine "flavor" in case at some point I decide to actually PU her). Anyway, at the dry cleaning place, there is a big poster/calendar on one of the walls with a butterfly on it. There was some kind of paperweight butterfly on some papers near the register. Clearly, because this chick WORKS there (spends hours there), she's guaranteed to have noticed those things and have them burned into her brain. But, while she turned her back to me from behind the counter to write something down on another table, she bend over in such a way that her shirt rode up enough for me to see that she had a large butterfly tattoo on the small of her back, right above her ass-checks. When she came back with my receipt, I said (without looking at her to make it ambiguous which I was talking about) "Cute butterfly." She didn't ask "Which one?" She didn't question which butterfly I was referring to and simply said "Thank you." in a shy way. She KNEW she was displaying her tattoo for me, that was on her mind, and I simply projected back to her that I noticed and have no issues about telling her. Was that her AI to me? No. When chicks are putting themselves on display like that, they know it. So, one has to filter out whether the chick does that all the time, is doing it just for that environment, or if she's doing it just for you. And of course there are times when chycks simply take the pleasure of being a cock tease, only to tell you to go fuck yourself when you try to pursue it! An AI is certianly an indicator, but do not let yourself be casught off guard.
-- AI is creating opener for you
1.29. FI
If a chick staringly longingly at your crotch or getting on all fours in doggie-style position directly in front of you isn't an AI (actually it's far more than an AI...it's a FI) then I don't know what is.
1.30. Good Example:
I'm at the gym and there's this chick getting a workout mat to strech. I notice she's getting it REALLY SLOWLY and when I go to get my mat she lets me get MINE first. Then when I put the mat down she SLOWLY walks by pretending to play with her walkman while I notice she's not doing ANYTHING with it. I realize this is a BLANTANT AI so I open with: "Hey, where do I know you from?" and after pretending to think for a while she says: "I was getting a bagel and you talked to me" and I realize I've chatted this chick before but I didn't realize!! Still, this was a good example of AI. I noticed subtle things most guys would NEVER see. Especially the walkman thing, if I hadn't looked closely I wouldn't have EVER noticed she was pressing the volume button when her earphones weren't even in her EAR!!! Unfortunately I couldn't close her but I'll for the INSTADATE the next time I see her.
ON THE BUS I'm sitting on the bus and there's this chick about 5seats away from me sitting beside this dude. I notice she takes out a book and starts flipping through it, she's not even looking at the pages. She'll look at a page and then stop, then turn to another page 5 seconds later. I realize she's trying to get the attention of the guy beside her but he's completely clueless. The chick puts the book back in her bag and then takes out some rainbow coloured mittens. She starts playing around with them in her hand, the guy still doesn't do ANYTHING. She then starts tying her hair back and runs her hand through her hair SEVERAL times. Still nothing. Then she takes out some lip balm and starts putting it on her lips. The guy FINALLY notices her but he doesn't open. I get off at the next stop and smile at her as I leave. She shyly looks down. Hmmm, maybe she wanted ANY guy to open her? It was a crowded bus and I was sweaty from my workout so I wasn't in state to open. ____ I also got a negative AI. I was at the grocery store and there was this HOTTIE looking at canned foods. I walked up RIGHT BESIDE her and grabbed the can directly in front of her. I did it really slowly and then slowly moved away a little. Note - I didn't talk to her. I was looking for an AI of her staying in the aisle or pretending to look at the ingredients on the can but she left the aisle so I took it as a negative AI.
1.31. Maybe intro
I've seen chicks doing this to guys ALL OVER THE PLACE yet I barely see ANY guy take advantage of it, either because they are oblivious or don't know how or are too much of a pussy to do what they know they've got to do. Chicks spend forever prepping and primping themselves before they go out, particularly on those days of "readiness". Who knows from whence that readiness state originates: the onset of ovulation, a recent break up and a need to find a replacement, a bad relationship where she's looking to replace the guy, general horniness, whatever. Anyway, they do all this preparation... but they are forced to do "PU" in a _passive_ way, opening the door for guys to do PU on them, but most guys never do. IMAGINE THEIR FRUSTRATION?!? Now, when you approach a chick who provides an AI to you, the power of your approach becomes that much more intense, because your uniqueness and value as a man to her far exceeds that of any other guy and even exceeds that of a random "cold" PU. What a damn great position to be in... I think if you guys read my very first post on AI on uASF (almost 2 years ago!), which describes a lot of the chick's perspective, it will make even more sense.
a man who is capable of observing her in an undecided SELECTIVE way (not blatantly chooses her yet) - pAImAI. This undecided selective observation (pAImAI) of he,r mixed with presence through actions of subtle display, and particularly EC whenever possible, induces her into AI. She can't help it - her biology propels her to initiate an AI as a test to the man to determine his VIABILITY. His viability is then proven through: Clear observation of her AI, acknowledgement of it, and taking action based on it in order to initiate the "mating dance".
with an anti-AI (walk away or start acting negative), or the AI sours into a DAI (dead AI).
1.32. AR
EVERY SINGLE TIME the chicks didn't respond to such an initiation was if she was with her BF at the time, that I didn't know about until he walks up within a short amount of time. Other times, they would at least look over or an AI would actually be initiated. While the BF is around... nothing or walks away. I would continue observing out of curiosity and would subsequently finally see a BF walk up to her. I think I'm now ready to compile a significant write-up on AI based on all the recent threads and field tests of others.
1.33. No fuck- guarantuee
At each juncture she has the choice of bailing out, REGARDLESS of how blatant and "interested" her AI was. So, I think some guys are really missing the point of the AI-pAImAI discussion that's going on. Another point: There's an interesting concept in that previous paragraph of mine. I state "what you have, is someone who is in the ongoing process of assessing". I think this is central NOT ONLY to what's going on in the chyck's mind; but ALSO to what will make your pAImAI, and maybe your whole sarge, effective. By entering into the pAImAI-for-AI dance, you've created a situation in which your "choice" of the woman as "the one" that you want to bang has to remain IN ABEYANCE. You can't DECIDE (state-management-wise) "Omigoood she's so fuggin' hot I gotta bang her." Rather, you have to consistently be of the mindset of, "Well, she's kinda hot, maybe really hot, but I DON'T KNOW YET and so I need to CONTINUE to remain undecided as I continue to assess her." This ongoing assessment / indecision then parallels / matches / (dare I say it) PACES hers. And then you can lead it.
But for me an AI is more like if YOU receive a "letter of intentions" from a company interested in signing with you an agreement. Of course there is probably a long way before you manage to close the deal, but hey!, they are already interested!. ;-)
I pinpointed your problem. That was, indeed, and AI on her end. However, an AI does *not* set the stage for the whole PU context, only how you can open and that you can OPEN with success. Just because she initiates a mostly unconscious interest to be approached by you, does not mean she will also create the context for how that PU will occur or how the follow-through will happen. That's your job as the man.
1.34. Surprise ais
Being sweaty and not "in state" is not an excuse, we should open under these circumstances.
Yes, you start to see initial human interactions in a different light and your world becomes FILLED with an amazing array of observable AIs from chicks to guys. It's like you have some kind of government-issued goggles that allow you to see a spectrum of reality that the average guy can't see, observe, and learn from.
1.35. Fake ai's
Usually, chicks who are by themselves when they initiate an AI are much more likely to be congruent in their interest than chicks who are with at least 1 other person. It's the same reasoning as to why you must extract a chick to get her to be more aggressive about her interest in you if she's with a group of people. She's simply going to be much more conscious of how she APPEARS to her friends than if she were alone. I guess I just take this thought for granted, cuz I figure it's common sense. My guess is that the bogus AIs you are running into, afcpua, tend to mostly happen when you get what you think are AIs from chicks who are with other people.
Also, club/bar environments are more prone to peacocking from chicks than AI. AI is less interesting in club environments.
Formhandle makes an EXCELLENT point here. The solo behavior of a chick is not group-determined. Remember, women are MUCH more concerned with their status as a member of a group. Their perception of "what will other people think of me" influences their decisions in a much more pervasive, deep way, than it does men. I personally don't find that congruency is correlated the way Jay says -- that solo chicks tend to follow up on AIs more congruently than do chicks in groups -- but I do find that in "groupy" environments (groups of chicks at tables in restaurants, clubs, High Schools) the AIs are PROFOUNDLY more spurious (as Jay says) but also OBVIOUSLY so. All you have to do is learn to recognize the difference between "overt girly-girl flirting that involves a lot of high-pitched noise" (false group-oriented AI) and "oops he caught me looking" (inadvertent real AI) and "I think I'll separate myself from my sistahs and stand over here and bend over" (deliberate real AI).
1.36. most useful AIs
In fact, most SOUND-oriented AIs, in my experience, are false, except the very close ones -- whispers are a REAL AI. Just ask her to fuck you right there if she bends to your ear and whispers. (Makes sense: all other sounds travel over distances no matter how careful she was to direct them. Consequently, the sounds will involve the hearing of her group of friends.) I find the most useful AIs are eye-contact ones (generally making eye- contact feels like your friends can't tell who you're looking at) and things having to do with the feet. Moving somewhere, standing differently, bending over ... if she arches her back, yawns, stretches her arms, it's 50/50 to me, usually. Smelling good does'nt count as an AI at all, because it's utterly omnidirectional. But it's still a good opening. :)
1.37. Example
I was had just finished pumping gas into my vehicle at a local convenience store, when I turned and walked inside to pay. As I walked across the parking lot, I noticed her standing at the counter paying for a diet softdrink. I made immediate Eye Contact .. She locked on! I kept it untill we could no longer look at eachother because of an obstruction, as I reached for the door she was there, and appeared to be on her way out. She opened the door for me, again Eye Contact, and I walked right passed her and ignored her. I went to the cooler, got a soda and went to the counter. She was still there, she seemed........flustered (for lack of a better word). She was prancing around like she was lost or something, as if she was looking for a way to stay there longer(Waiting for me to Pick her Up) So then she's holding the diet soda she's already payed for in one hand and with the other hand she reaches down and grabs a hand full of candy and throughs it on the counter and starts digging in her purse for the money to pay for it. I was about 6 to 8 feet away, close enough to here her whisper to the cashier(female)"God what I wouldn't do to spend just one night with a man like that!":) She was a 6. This is an obvious example of an AI. I've seen many more that were less obvious, but they're not hard to spot, I mean how long does it take to read the label on a cup of yogurt?!?:) When you look up in the sky you can see the stars and still not see the light. InnerCalm
1.38. most frequent AIs are:
- Hair flip
- Room-encompassing glance (obviously including "looking in your general direction").
- Smile - Neck presentation (Aaaaarrrggghhh dear Dracula!, i get wood when they do this!).
- Head toss (i love also when chicks do this!).
breaking 3s rule for properly reading AIs specially after pAImAI, (prey selection), can boost acceptance success ratio significantly
1.39. discovery channel
"The male pickupoo enters into the female's territory and registers a faint sign of interest while continuing to burrow into his nest. The female indicates her interest with a display of preening. The male issues the mating call, a low subtle "hi hi hi hi" sound, often repeated only once. The dance ensues, in which the female pickupee and the male pickupoo trade insults and banter in a demonstration of intellectual worth. It is worthy to note that often the material wellbeing of the male is questioned, more as a test of his confidence than of his wealth.
1.40. Important paimai description
The way pAImAI works in a "passive" way is like a silent neg, without needing to wait for her to do a damn thing, just notice your presence. You make your presence known, make it known you are displaying interest (not like an AFC who pretends not to notice her) and simultaneously make it CLEAR that you have not decided yet and she must prove herself. That is the EXACT frame I use when on the peripheral of a dance region and watching a specific chick or 2 dance in front of me. The EXACT shit going through my mind.
1.41. Example:
On York Campus (where Twentysix and I were sarging and we had a blast), I spotted an AI from a HB9 (smoking hot euro-chick) sitting on a bench.. I sat down, and said 'hi'.. She is SO happy about this.. She's like "hahah.. umm... *HI*!! :)".. I say "what's up?".. She says "WHAT'S UP WITH YOU???" (soooo happy I approached, almost giddy).. I reply (credit TokyoPUA) "i dunno.. you looked fun.. I thought you'd be someone I'd like to meet..." And from there it is ON.. We're in deep rapport and kino
Then, last night, I was winging with Twentysix and No9, and spotted (IMO) the hottest chick in the club giving me an AI (this is the result of my extreme peacocking, which the hottest chicks gravitate towards.. this happens daily now, and most people not willing to field test peacocking will get their asses wupped by me in the club now, because peacocking is the best shit for clubs ever, IMO - absolutely ridiculously UNSTOPPABLE).. I notice that she kind of freezes and is aware of my presence whenever I'm in that room of the club.. She keeps kind of backing away from her dancing circle whenever I roll by but still not really looking at me. So Twentysix and I just sit there by the bar, while I sit there staring at her dancing. She backs away from the circle, and I go in NEUTRAL GUNWITCH STYLE, since I ALREADY HAVE HER IN A SEXUAL STATE AND DO NOT NEED ANY GAME.
So I ask her where the best clubs are (she rubbing her cheek on my face kind of to listen, and looks ECSTATIC CLOUD NINE STYLE that I approached).. Her friend comes into cock block: CB: hey.. ME: is it OK if I'm getting to know your friend? CB: well you have to get by me first.. ME: oh yeah? you're definetely a classy chaperone.. I think I like you. CB: haha.. where do you work? ME: I'm the president of Microsoft.. CB: mmmmm.. sounds good.
Anyway, the AIs are GREAT for approaches. DO NOT USE THEM AS CRUTCHES FOR COLD APPROACHING, but they are nice, if you can spot them. I've used them several times this week, but those were the two hottest girls, and IMO most interesting
1.42. Opener
PUs. IME so far, the key to approaching when there's been AI, is to go in NEUTRAL. Not too much routines/humour/patterns, unless its light and flirty, but RETAINS her sexual state. REMEMBER: POINT A: She is COLD or UNDECIDED. POINT B: She is in SEXUAL STATE. When you have APPROACH INVITATION (AI), she is ALREADY somewhat in a sexual state. She is ALREADY at POINT B. Routines/patterns/games/fascinatingconvo is DESIGNED to move her from POINT A to POINT B as fast as efficiently as possible. When there is an AI, going back to POINT A will fuck your sarge up. Use GUNWITCH METHOD for AIs, with a little bit of flirty/fun humour. That's my opinion at THIS TIME, and may change.
1.43. Crablouse posts process
a) to make yourself visible to her (go into her vision field) b) attract her attention somehow
c) pop up aside her once
d) "Excuse-me, let me take the magazine you are standing in front of"
She will somehow asses you with a rapide glance (quick evaluate, or qe)
Your actions must be clear (she MUST understand you are interested) yet
subtle (must seem unconscious as if you are doing something else) and also
rather only understandable by the target (Both of you don't need everybody
to know, slut factor)
The qe is visible and can be observed easily. Then you know shes assessed
you. Maybe you have to somehow look away from her, as many chix don't look
at you before qe when you look at them. Read that again to understand. You
have to look away, then look at her again.
GOLD, formhandle I will include that
crablouse
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